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What exactly is a "Golden Greek"? - Darrell Senneke and Torston Blanck
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Lebanese Golden Greek, Jordanian Golden Greek,
“Dwarf” Greek Tortoise,
“Dwarf” Golden Greek,
Syrian Golden Greek, "Terrestris" All of these
names have been used to identify Golden Greeks, all originated in the
pet trade and may have no bearing upon actual taxonomic designation.
In "Morphological variation among Middle
Eastern Testudo .......... " by Jarmo Parala
Congress Intrernational sur le genre Testudo - Proceedings (March 7-10,
2001) pages 78 - 108 he elevates T. terrestris to a full
species. and splits the middle eastern Testudo graeca to 8
species.
In the summer of 2001
a new tortoise appeared on the American market. While it was obvious that this
was a Testudo of some variety, it was declared a Testudo graeca
, Testudo graeca ibera
, Testudo graeca terrestris or Testudo graeca flowerii.
depending upon your taxonomist of choice. In other
words, little was known about them other than that they had a very light colored
shell and that a mask was evident on darker skinned specimens. They became
known in the market as “Golden Greeks”. Until these animals are examined by taxonomists and their findings peer reviewed the actual species/ subspecies designation of Golden Greeks will most likely remain in question.
Initial examinations by some taxonomists identified the species as probable
Testudo graeca terrestris. As time went on and more was learned
of these animals this became supported by the probable
locale data from the early shipments and confiscations of a Lebanon or Jordanian
point of origin.
This pattern of
identifying an unknown Testudo as Testudo graeca
terrestris is not new. When first what is now known as
Testudo graeca cyrenicae appeared on the market they were called
T. graeca terrestris by sellers. and the initial point of
origin was claimed to be Egypt. In that case the color pattern was distinctive
enough that Testudo researchers who had seen them before
knew they originated in Libya. As an incidental aside, this proved the
existence of tortoise smuggling from Libya (who had no legal trade with the
United States at that time) to Egypt then the selling of them and Libyan
T. kleinmanni to the States as legal "Egyptians".
As stated above the presently accepted point of origin for the "Goldens" is
Jordan or Lebanon. With the Goldens there is the added problem of them actually being
from the assumed type locality for T. g. terrestris. The
Middle East is a harsh area of the world, small areas hospitable to
tortoises are surrounded by vast areas that do not support them. This
creates geographic islands which tend to develop their own species, subspecies
and Evolutionarily Significant Units (ESU). If at all possible animals from
dissimilar areas should not be mixed as they may have little or no
resistance to diseases carried by others, others that are even of the same
species but that may be carrying a disease without showing symptoms. In
that area of the world 100 miles may as well be a thousand genetically
speaking so if it is at all possible even animals that are similar and from
the same general area of the world should be isolated until we know exactly
what we have and a long quarantine period has
passed.
It is becoming generally accepted that there are differences between the care
needed for the T. graeca subspecies, The World Chelonian Trust is far
from the only one stating this. On the fine
Podarcus web site they distinguish
the T. graeca from the east European subspecies and geographical
forms and those from Asia Minor as being the only ones that can be kept in an
outdoor habitat in the Netherlands at:
How to keep
Tortoises. Golden Greeks kept under conditions acceptable for these do not
survive unless special adaptations are made for their requirements.
So the question must be asked exactly what Golden Greeks are and who makes those decisions? Who decides that something is a species or a subspecies and how does this become accepted? The problems with taxonomic confusion are discussed elsewhere on this site but what is supposed to happen is a researcher comes up with evidence of a nominal grouping and describes it in a peer reviewed journal that meets the criteria of the ICZN, it must be reviewed and have a good circulation. The description sets a type specimen which must be in a museum and defines the species or subspecies, names it and gives a differential diagnosis (i.e. how do you distinguish it). (Thanks to Scott Thomson for the above definition)
Problems arise when an
animal enters the pet trade, without locality data and with a doubtful species
designation, in that case it is the duty of the keeper to best determine what
it is in order to properly care for it, preferably prior to acquiring it. Until then they have
to be called something, both for the sake of providing proper care
instructions and to
avoid confusion, and we need to best determine what that
should be.
An excellent attempt has been made to show the ranges of the T.
graeca complex by Torston Blanck at Landschildkroeten.com
on maps in his article:
Verbreitungskarten der verschiedenen Testudo Arten written in 1999. By looking at the maps
you can see the traditional T. graeca is presented as 12
species / subspecies.
Testudo graeca anamurensis
Testudo graeca antakyensis:
Testudo graeca armeniaca
Testudo graeca flowerii
Testudo graeca graeca
Testudo graeca ibera
Testudo graeca nikolskii
Testudo graeca terrestris
Testudo graeca zarudnyi
Testudo flavominimaralis
Testudo nabeulensis
Testudo whiteii
(Map - Graeca group used with permission - 1999 map)
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(Color Key)
Testudo graeca anamurensis
Testudo graeca antakyensis:
Testudo graeca armeniaca
Testudo graeca flowerii
Testudo graeca graeca
Testudo graeca ibera
Testudo graeca nikolskii
Testudo graeca terrestris
Testudo graeca zarudnyi
(Map - Furculachelys Group -
used with permission - 1999 map)
(Color Key)
Testudo
flavominimaralis
Testudo nabeulensis
Southern Form
Northern Form
Testudo whiteii
Shown are the ranges
and and a brief description of each is made on the follow-up page at
T. graeca
According to these maps the "Golden Greeks" would either be T. g.
terrestris or Testudo graeca flowerii both of which are found in
Jordan. By the description, given below, the Golden Greek shown in the
first photo on this page would be T. g. flowerii.
Testudo graeca flowerii - The smallest T. graeca. subspecies (not all experts accept this subspecies and often synonymies it with T. g. terrestris). The carapace is relatively flat and of a bright dark yellow coloration with clearly defined black markings, the tail has a centered black blotch (important!), the plastron is horn colored with individual centered black blotches. The head is of a bright yellow coloration. There is a strong similarity with T. kleinmanni which has a similar coloration and size"
The above is a pretty good description of a "Golden
Greek".
Still the question is
posed as to if there is a "real" difference between T.
g. flowerii and T. g. terrestris? For care
purposes this does not matter as the requirements are the same.
Landschildkroeten.com is the best generally available location where one can find this information.
Please notice though that there is no Testudo graeca cyrenicae
on these maps. According to this source Testudo graeca cyrenicae
would have to be Testudo flavominimaralis so obviously the
designations can and will change. Both the maps and information on Landschildkroeten.com
are presently undergoing an extensive updating and will soon reflect current
information
The above explains why the full title of our care sheet is:
"Golden Greek" Tortoise - Testudo
graeca terrestris / Testudo graeca flowerii
Add to this the fact they they are not all gold as can be seen in this group photograph and in our T. g. terrestris / T. g. flowerii Gallery , in fact some are quite dark, and the result is that at present it would be more accurate to call "Golden Greeks" either Testudo graeca terrestris / Testudo graeca flowerii or Middle East "graeca" and drop both the "Golden" and "Greek" from the common name.
What has come to light since they first appeared in the international trade is that there is an established business of selling tortoises from the Middle East. What has been determined is that the "Goldens" originate from Lebanon, Syria, Israel and Jordan. Most of them are sold in Europe as "Farm Bred Lebanon" or imported into the United States as "Captive Bred". No "Farm" whatsoever could produce these numbers and also specimens older than 40 years. Other "Goldens" on paper originate from "Farm Bred USSR and Farm Bred Slovenia", both countries without any T. graeca populations at all.
To the best of our knowledge what is being sold as Golden Greeks are mostly Testudo g. terrestris and Testudo g. flowerii, mixed by collection, smaller ones with the blotches being tentatively identified as T. g. flowerii, larger ones, with the much more rounded and domed carapace being T. g. terrestris (Syria & Jordan). The rather pink specimens are Jordanian, where the sand color is rather reddish. T. g. terrestris seems to adopt much more than other T. graeca to the soil of their habitat, in some locations in Syria nearly black specimens exist (black Basalt is the soil there), these have also appeared in the trade, while in the yellow desert of Syria and in the Negev of Israel, the "Goldens" exist.
Note: In
"Morphological variation among Middle Eastern Testudo .......... " by Jarmo
Parala
Congress Intrernational sur le genre Testudo - Proceedings (March 7-10,
2001) pages 78 - 108 he elevates T. terrestris to a full
species. and splits the middle eastern Testudo graeca to 8
species. "Golden Greeks" are a mix of all of these species with most being
T. terrestris and T. floweri . We use T.
graeca terrestris rather than T. terrestris
because of the accepted nomenclature of these animals by most users of the
internet searching for information.
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